Out in the Silence

All Out Attack on Traditional Values in Pennsylvania:

Homosexual documentary falsely accuses the AFA of PA

1.)  of encouraging the boycott of a locally lesbian-owned theatre.
Read the letter to Venango County residents concerning the Latonia Theatre page 1 and page_2.   This letter so outraged homosexual activists that they contacted the Oil City Police Chief, who in turn contacted the AFA of PA and asked what our intentions were.  He was told it was all outlined in the letter –‘educate and let the people decide’!

2.)  of supporting the bullying of homosexual students.
Read that letter to Franklin Area School District taxpayers page 1 and page_2

After reading these letters, it will be quite clear that the intention of this documentary is to demean all those who do not ‘celebrate’ the homosexual lifestyle, all who expose the dangers of engaging in it and all who reveal the homosexual agenda for what it is:   redefining marriage and family and trying to convince America’s children that homosexuality is a ‘safe, alternative lifestyle.’

By the way — just who is Dean Hamer?  Click here for more information

Read this August 26, 2010 AFA of PA news release about “A Christian Response to Out in the Silence” held at Coudersport, Potter County.

Click here for one Coudersport reporter’s response to the biased presentation on July 28, 2010.

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  • Mike south

    Thank you Richard for calling this bigoted organization to task. Diane you should be ashamed of yourself. You do have blood on your hands. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle. It is not a choice. Get over it. Stop killing innocent teenagers with your hatred. We have had legalized gay marriage in canada for 10 years and it hasn’t affected straight marriage at all. What it has affected is tolerance and acceptance of our fellow human beings just like Jesus preached to put it in terms the ignoramus understand. Discrimination based on sexuality is illegal in canada as well And we are a much more loving and accepting society as a result. What I do know is that the APA agenda needs to be stopped before more innocent teenagers take their own lives. Here’s praying that you find compassion in your hearts this Christmas. Merry Christmas

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Diane met Frank Kamany this past September — he’s considered the “father of the modern homosexual movement.” She was able to ask him first hand if he believed the ‘gay gene’ would ever be found. He told her, ‘No, there is no gay gene. Homosexuality was affected more by environment than genetics.’ So, apparently he believes it is a lifestyle choice also. Actually same-sex marriage has not been legal throughout Canada for 10 years. In 2000, after the Ontario government amended provincial law, Parliament amended federal law to give same-sex couples essentially the same benefits as married couples. It was not until July 2005, even though the majority of Canadians still oppose same-sex marriage, that Parliament passed Bill C-38 legalizing homosexual marriage throughout Canada. You say it has ‘affected tolerance and acceptance of our fellow human beings just like Jesus preached.’ Jesus was not tolerant nor accepting of sin and engaging in homosexual acts is sinful. He still forgives sin, but continues to say ‘Go and sin no more.’ In Matthew 19:4-5 Jesus defines marriage as between one man and one woman. You say you are a ‘much more loving and accepting society.’ Tell that to marriage commissioners who have been forced either to perform homosexual ‘marriages’ or resign. How about the Knights of Columbus group that was sued after it refused to host a homosexual ‘wedding’ in its hall? And how does the government respond to the concerns of parents when school curricula at all levels are being altered to ensure the indoctrination of children in the ‘equality’ of homosexual ‘marriages’ and the legitimacy of homosexuality? Tolerant of opposing views – I don’t think so.

  • A Realistic Human

    Diane Gramley and her followers are nothing more than an organized cult. They take pleasure in hurting others. They probably find enjoyment in the horrible behavior exhibited at the funerals of dead soldiers.

    Mrs. Gramley – remember that Karma is a bitch. Also, make sure your husband isn’t out politicking anymore… he’s a civil servant and will be reported.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    To A Realistic Human: Oh yes, the intolerance of those crying for tolerance the loudest! You didn’t include examples of “They take pleasure in hurting others.” Apparently you are equating statistics from the CDC telling how dangerous the homosexual lifestyle is and those from the FDA banning men who have sex with men from giving blood as being hurtful. It is much more compassionate to be truthful about dangers associated with one’s lifestyle choices than it is to say, “Gay is okay.”

  • Joseph Matthew Carson

    I appologize for your hatred, ma’am but we all still love you deep down. After all isn’t that what Jesus preached? You conveniently left out that you were so pretentious, you wouldn’t allow them to film what you thought about. You said something about the roads it would lead to, but honestly, what roads? Child molestation has been an epidemic to more straight people than gays, because gays couldnt stand seeing someone go through something like that. I have one question, and you’ll never hear from me again. Do you believe the hatred preached by none other than Fred Phelps is reasonable or godly?

  • Joseph Matthew Carson

    what if everyone agrees to add to the law that allows gays to marry the distinction that no sex, other than the consentual sex between two human beings that are not related in any form, no animals are involved, and no one can marry more than one person? i bet that wouldnt even satisfy you. the meaning of marriage isnt the man woman crap, its two human beings who found each other outside their family and decide to profess love for each other. Please just know your efforts are futile except to the most gullible of people. No one is going back in the closet, and there are plenty of pastors who will officiate a wedding, whether it is deemed legal by the state or not, that doesnt mean that this pastor doesnt still carry the right to marry their souls.

  • Jeff

    The reason anyone cries the loudest is from trying to be heard over the other cryers. One just gets louder, then the next, then the next. How about if everyone stops crying and let people live their own lives as long as they aren’t hurting anyone, who should care? Who has the right? Absolutely no one!

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    It’s apparent that you do not understand the love that Jesus preached about. Jesus’ compassion and love included warning those who were in sin to believe in him, leave their sin and go and sin no more. As far as child molestation statistics, according to the Journal of Sex Research, “Although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses are homosexual in nature. The Archives of Sexual Behavior notes, “Eighty-six percent of offenders against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.” Fred Phelps is neither a reasonable or godly man.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    In Genesis 2:24 and again repeated by Jesus in Matthew 19:5, “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” Yes, the meaning of marriage is about a man and a woman. Any pastor who officiates at a same-sex “marriage” ceremony should be more concerned about God’s teaching and His reaction to their actions.

  • beachbum

    I sincerely pray that someday you realize the error of your ways and will stop preaching such intolerance. God did not elevate us to a position to judge or even make the lives of sinner’s more difficult. He only charged us with seeing to our own eye’s before attending to our neighbor’s. Focus on yourself and your family before condemning others to not having the same civil rights as us. I will pray for you!

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    As I will pray for you also! Hopefully you read the information provided to see that the AFA of PA does not ‘preach intolerance.’ I’m not sure which Bible you are reading. After Jesus’ resurrection he gave the 11 remaining disciples the Great Commission, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.” What did Jesus teach? He taught that marriage shall be between one man and one woman when in Matthew 19 he quoted Genesis 2:24. He taught that he did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, but to fulfill them. He taught that one needed to accept Him, leave their sins behind and go and sin no more as he told the woman at the well and the woman caught in adultery. Additionally, this is not a civil rights issue as these protections have been extended to groups because of their immutable (unchangeable) characteristics, their political powerlessness and their long history of discrimination. Neither of these three characteristics describe homosexuals. No one is born homosexual and the thousands of ex-gays can attest to that. Homosexuals have never been denied the right to vote, been forced to drink from separate water fountains or sit in the back of the bus. They are seeking special protections simply because of the sexual activity in which they engage.

  • beachbum

    Unlike others – I know when an issue is lost… So just know that I will continue to pray for you. Perhaps someday you will see the light!

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    When is an issue lost? Galatians 6:7-9 says, “Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.” God does not want us to become weary in doing good, in fighting the fight to uphold His truth. Which battle(s) do you believe are lost? God has not declared defeat in any of the battles being waged in this secular culture.

  • yuncjunc

    AFA, thank you for your nerve and consistency in the face of the bloggers-for-hire who seem to always appear in this venue. God Bless Pennsylvania !

  • mark p

    Personally, i don’t see the point in interpreting the Bible and using it as the standard for morality and love. I think the bible is stuffed with intolerance and bigotry, especially towards women.

    Why are women accepting of this?

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    I’m not sure which bible you are reading!

  • mark p

    1st Timothy 2 verse 11 to 13 : let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man,but to be in silence. 13 for Adam was formed first then Eve.

  • Matthew Keys

    AFAofPA, although I admit that marriage between two same gender is unorthodox, but who are we to judge others? I remember my pastor saying “Do not judge, or you too will be judge”. We should not go to the broadcast and say “Owh this couple is wrong! We should start picketing at their weddings, funerals, houses and even infront of their adopted children!” As a christians, I’m ashamed by all of you “Phelps” bigots. This is not the love I’ve learnt from Sunday school, this is hatred.

    Fear the God, yes we should. But why are you making others to fear you? Are you trying to replace God? Are you trying to BE the Shepherd when you’re not? Sin deceives the sinners in any form. In case of Adam and Eve, it was the serpent. But in your case, it is the blinded notion of yours that repeatedly interpreting the bible in a way the ‘serpent’ wanted you to. Allow you to see only the passage that It wants to you see.

    What was the first Ten Commandment stated? You bet it. But why do I find almost all of the hatred christianity groups posting lies to deceive other people? Doesn’t it make you the sin of all sins as being a deceiver? I highly believe it is.

    Stop it before you realising it’s too late. This is an advice from the one you love most, from anyone He loves most. That is everyone.

  • James

    Religion and politics should not be mixed. It’s nice to know that divorce/remarrying is widely accepted yet there is a stink over homosexuality. Sin is sin. Why isn’t divorce/remarrying battled as much as homosexuality?

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    The AFA of PA has never picketed homosexual weddings, funerals, homes or in front of the adopted children of homosexuals. The AFA of PA has condemned Fred Phelps and his tactics in the past and will continue doing so. Jesus himself defined marriage as only between one man and one woman when he quoted from Genesis 2:24 in Matthew 19:5. You need to also read Matthew 7:2, not just Matthew 7:1.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    It was religious men who gathered in Philadelphia to discuss the British tyranny against the thirteen colonies. And John Adams, our nation’s second President said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Religion has always played a role in American politics. Unfortunately, divorce and remarrying has become too widely accepted in the church, but that does not make it right. The government has made divorce too easy with the legalization of no fault divorce as it is now working to use the force of law to normalize homosexuality.

  • Geo

    Having grown up in the same locations where the film took place, I can attest to narrow mindedness of the general (not the entire) population of the area. It’s sad to see that the best and the brightest young people must leave Oil City and Franklin to pursue their dreams. It’s also sad to see what it has become in the 30 years since I left. It is not a welcoming area for gay people, or for any other minority, for that matter. Concurrently, companies do not locate operations or people to places like this. I fear the area will continue to decline.

    A vibrant and growing city requires a diversity of people, young and old, all races, straight and gay. Until the people of Venango County get rid of the hatred and bigotry, I see no hope for the region.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Who are the “best and the brightest” young people who have left the area? Individuals such as you and Joe Wilson? Such a statement is an insult to all who hold traditional values. When Quaker State and Pennzoil left the area there was no mention of the county not welcoming homosexuals, nor has there been such remarks since from those or other corporations. Such remarks have come from Joe Wilson and others pushing an agenda. To base the economic recovery of Oil City on the ‘arts’ and not industry is a flawed notion.

  • TIm

    How dare you say that you are pro family. A family is defined as a group of people that love and support each other. Is a homosexual family different, yes. But that doesn’t make it wrong or immoral. Would you rather have these people out on the street fending for themselves, or in the case of children, being shuffled from foster home to foster home?

    You people have used “religion” and “good morals” as an excuse to discriminate for long enough.

    The constitution of the United States which you people claim was founded on the biblical principals that you people hold so near and dear, grants equal rights for all men. Just because you don’t happen to agree, doesn’t give you the right to deny someone else’s.

    Either you grant equality or you could just leave the US and go somewhere that is “more Godly”.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Where in the Constitution does it grant equal rights for all men? Amendment XIV, Section 1 mentions, ‘equal protection of the laws,’ but not equal rights. Wondering where you got the definition of ‘family.’ The definition of that word has been changed by those seeking to remold it to mean something it did not mean in the past. It is very clear what God says about the sin of homosexuality as it is very clear what God says about any sin. Also, wondering if you could give us an example or two as to how we have discriminated.

  • Jay Gaultieri

    People who hate gays are all gay themselves. I tolerate gays because I’m comfortable enough with my heterosexuality to know gays won’t “change” me.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Excuse me, do you know me Jay? From what study did you glean your information? You tolerate “gay” because you, like so many, view the world through the lens of moral relativism. And, whether you believe it or not, there is ultimate truth, there is right and wrong.

  • Jay Gaultieri

    There is right and wrong, and there is an attack on the family these days by the popular culture. But it’s not the gays that are doing it. Mostly they just want to live their lives and be left alone. It’s not gays divorcing or breaking up families. Straights are doing that. The gay neighborhood in any city is usually one of the safer ones. Younger evangelical Christians will tell you homosexuality is a sin, but they don’t expound huge amounts of time and energy attacking gays. Most of us (I’m a heterosexual married Christian man) don’t care what other people are doing in their bedrooms. Ms Gramley (I don’t know if you’re married or not) this whole website makes you come off like an overly concerned prude with too much time on your hands.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Well, we can agree on your first statement and I agree that the majority of homosexuals just want to live their lives. However the very loud minority of homosexual activists are seeking to redefine marriage and get other laws passed to give them special protections simply because of the sexual activity in which they engage. No one is born homosexual and all have equal protection under the law. As far as homosexuals not breaking up families, I can give you a couple examples off the top of my head: Dean Hamer one of the filmmakers of this ‘documentary’ left his wife and daughter when he “discovered” he was really homosexual and V. Gene Robinson, the first open homosexual Episcopalian ‘bishop’ also left his wife and family when he “discovered” he was homosexual. Two of many examples of those who identify as homosexual putting their confusion before the well-being of their family. Sin is sin and Christians are answerable to God as to how they confront its assault on the culture in which they live. Perhaps you should take time to look at the CDC statistics as to the dangers of the homosexual lifestyle and the impact it has on the rest of society i.e. health care costs associated with HIV/AIDS. Additionally, I seriously doubt you have reviewed the entire website. Read Romans 1.

  • http://outinthesilence.com Dean Hamer

    Could you please tell me where you obtained the information that “Dean Hamer…left his wife and daughter when he ‘discovered’ he was really homosexual”? I’m very curious about this assertion. Thanks- Dean Hamer

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Well Dean, you claim to have a daughter in this July 14, 2011 post http://outinthesilence.blogspot.com/2011/07/is-it-choice-scientists-view.html My only erroneous assumption was that you were married to your daughter’s mother.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Mark P: Your references to I Timothy 2:11-13 are taken out of context. Paul was writing to Timothy in Ephesus, a Greek city. If in a Greek city Christian women had taken an active and a speaking and a teaching part in the work of the Christian Church the Church would inevitably have gained the reputation of being a place of loose and immoral women. All the things in this chapter are temporary regulations laid down to meet a given situation. What did Paul really think of women? Check out Galatians 3:28 and II Timothy 1:5 where Paul holds Lois and Eunice in high honor. Other passages include: Matthew 28:8-10- it was women who first saw the risen Savior; Priscilla was a valued teacher (Acts 18:26); despite their quarrelsome natures Euodia and Syntyche labored in the Gospel (Philippians 4:2,3); Philip had four daughters who were prophetesses (Acts 21:9). Paul says the elderly women are to teach in Titus 2:3 and Romans 16 contains the names of many women held in honor.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    In 2003, the International Human Genome Consortium announced the successful completion of the Human Genome Project, which, among other things, identified each of the approximately 20,000-25,000 genes in human DNA. The press release read: “The human genome is complete and the Human Genome Project is over.”
    While this accomplishment was widely reported, almost no one reported the words of Dr. Francis Collins, the head of the project. Collins, arguably the nation’s most influential geneticist, said, “Homosexuality is not hardwired. There is no gay gene. We mapped the human genome. We now know there is no genetic cause for homosexuality.”

  • Sheila

    This is what Dr. Collins actually said..

    “An area of particularly strong public interest is the genetic basis of homosexuality. Evidence from twin studies does in fact support the conclusion that heritable factors play a role in male homosexuality. However, the likelihood that the identical twin of a homosexual male will also be gay is about 20% (compared with 2-4 percent of males in the general population), indicating that sexual orientation is genetically influenced but not hardwired by DNA, and that whatever genes are involved represent predispositions, not predeterminations.”

    Dr. Collins claims his words “have been juxtaposed in a way that suggests a somewhat different conclusion that I intended. I would urge anyone who is concerned about the meaning to refer back to the original text.”

    You all sure to play fast and loose with the truth, don’t you? This entire site is nothing but hateful, hurtful propaganda.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    You’ve read the entire site? Regarding the origins of homosexuality, the American Psychological Association in “Answers to Your Questions For a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality;” says: “There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors.”
    The past president of the American Psychiatric Association’s GLBT Issues committee said in an interview in a prominent homosexual publication that “…there is no real hard science to prove we are born gay.”

  • Polska

    You are dying… homophobes. Not many of you left.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Ah, yes . . . more kind words from the “tolerant ones.” Still a majority of Americans believe engaging in homosexual acts is not normal nor healthy.

  • Jean Livesey

    Diane..having watched Out in The Silence thankfully the young man did not kill himself from your hateful comments. It seems that you cannot speak for yourself but must constantly refer to the Bible. Is it at all possible you have your own thoughts instead of basing your opinions on what the Bible says.
    When you can think for yourself then I might listen to what you have to say.
    There’s some thoughts that go around that say, those that yell the loudest are usually the one’s with the biggest issues. If you are so concerned with being someone being gay then maybe you have some deep seeded issues that should be examined.
    Seeing you in the documentary I immediately thought you were a lesbian and supporting the young man before they said who you were.
    If myself and my girlfriend past you in the street we would have no problem thinking you were a lesbian.
    You, as they would say, would be the poster child for LESBIANISM. Why you might ask, your hair style, clothes, walk, you fit the bill. So before you condemn others you might have to take a long hard look at yourself first before you before you speak against a lifestyle you seem to fit in so perfectly.
    And becasue you have comment moderation here I have no doubt this comment will not be posted or it might be if yo uare so sure about yourself. But then again you wouldn’t want someone elses opinion to change some views you so vehemently fight against.

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    Specifically what hateful comments are you referring to?

  • Jean Livesey

    Don’t have to be specific your just hateful…………

  • http://afaofpa.org afaofpa

    So, you simply don’t like the fact that I believe engaging in homosexual acts are sinful and wrong. Which is more compassionate – to warn people that the activity in which they are engaging is dangerous (CDC stats prove just how dangerous engaging in homosexual acts is)or simply ignoring them and allowing them to continue down the road to destruction unwarned?

  • Dennis B.

    Always the “h” word ‘comes out’ at the least little sign of anything less than fawning approval. Do they really think that people are just too stupid to see through such hyperbole and inflammatory rhetoric?